"God has to be Tired of this Shit"
I often think if God is truly tired of what we have recklessly re-designed. Have you? Seriously, is our Lord disgusted by what we have done to His creation? Perhaps not, considering God was the one who allegedly allowed Adam and Eve to jack the world up: Free-will. Think about it. If the story is accurate, God labored for six days diligently fashioning the universe. Then left the Garden of Eden for a few moments. Came back, and later discovered what He molded with adulation was destroyed by one act of disobedience. Makes me wonder why God would go to so much trouble for us by creating the world, and then permit two human beings to destroy His work. Sadistic?
Most of us are serious about our work. We get to work on time. We do not abuse our lunch hour, and we make every attempt to successfully address our responsibilities in the timeframe we are given. God did all of this while on the job during His initial days of employment. He was never tardy. He did not make any mistakes; so they say. He only took one break throughout his lengthy days of work (On the Sabbath). Reminds me of a Mexican. However, the completion of work can be subjective. I can look over my work and confidently believe it is complete, and needs no adjustments. Someone else may appear to be more critical and conclude my efforts are incomplete; unsatisfactory. Which leads me to my question, Are you satisfied with what God has allowed to come of His masterpiece? Even if we believe in the Free-will concept you have to admit that what has become of this world is sickening. And, I wonder why God has not intervened to save the best of His creation, the Saints and Believers. If the story is true I guess they will be saved.
It is interesting that everything related to God is contingent on “if the story is true”. Have you even considered if the extremely convincing story that’s told by Christian ministers, grandparents, theologians, and church-goers is NOT true? Some of us will never fathom or entertain the idea. To do so puts us in an unworthy light with Mr. God himself. No one wants to be in the dog house (bad favor) with the Lord considering He has been known to strike down those who doubt and rebuke Him. A perfect example of someone who received the wrath of God is Haman, the antagonist in the Book of Esther. God did not waste any time with Haman after it was discovered he was plotting to kill God’s favorites: the Jews. It is apparent with Hebrew Bible support that God was more hands-on during those days. He was always ready to protect His highly favored and even exterminate those who did not comply. There are countless stories in the bible that reference God’s fatherly allegiance to His ‘Chosen Ones’, the Righteous. He was prepared to issue a death sentence to anyone who defied His agenda.
At least we are aware, via King James’ stories, that God cared then. But, now in my summation it is difficult to determine if God is really tired of this stinky stuff. We have those ‘enlighten individuals’ who blatantly disrespect God, we have those who do not believe Jesus is God’s son, we have those who believe the entire concept of God is foolishness, we have those who do not adhere to His commandments, we have those who refuse to acknowledge the power of God, and the list goes on and on with all sorts of “sins”. (I am aware some of you believe I am among this hell-bound group) And, still there is no movement from God. He continues to be unresponsive. Unless, you believe He is issuing vengeful retribution with disastrous and deadly weather that’s affected all of the United States in some form over the past 2-3 years e.g. ravishing floods, uncontrollable wild fires, erratic tornadoes, cataclysmic hurricanes, etc. Is this God’s way of sending the chickens home to roost?
Jeremiah Wright, in one of his fiery but truthful sermons, told his parishioners, “God has to be tired of this shit”. When I analyze the evils which have lead to the ills of America that are mentioned in this particularly sermon I conclude that there is something possibly missing among the people regularly seated in Jeremiah’s former church during America’s most segregated hour, and among most Americans: A Fear of God’s Anger. No one cautiously fears God like we were told to do as children. As He was feared by the Tribe of Judah. God is a joke to most of us. An impotent afterthought. An unused relic. Something of the past that no longer has the ability to rule.
Isn’t it obvious He is not sitting on the throne ruling or could it be that He is so sick of this shit that He “sadistically” refuses to reprimand us perilously carefree descendants of Abraham considering His remarkable acts previously used to get our attention have been insolently disregarded for far too long? Perhaps, He will have the last laugh!
What do you think?
Written by Muata. Inspired by another effort to understand.
I often think if God is truly tired of what we have recklessly re-designed. Have you? Seriously, is our Lord disgusted by what we have done to His creation? Perhaps not, considering God was the one who allegedly allowed Adam and Eve to jack the world up: Free-will. Think about it. If the story is accurate, God labored for six days diligently fashioning the universe. Then left the Garden of Eden for a few moments. Came back, and later discovered what He molded with adulation was destroyed by one act of disobedience. Makes me wonder why God would go to so much trouble for us by creating the world, and then permit two human beings to destroy His work. Sadistic?
Most of us are serious about our work. We get to work on time. We do not abuse our lunch hour, and we make every attempt to successfully address our responsibilities in the timeframe we are given. God did all of this while on the job during His initial days of employment. He was never tardy. He did not make any mistakes; so they say. He only took one break throughout his lengthy days of work (On the Sabbath). Reminds me of a Mexican. However, the completion of work can be subjective. I can look over my work and confidently believe it is complete, and needs no adjustments. Someone else may appear to be more critical and conclude my efforts are incomplete; unsatisfactory. Which leads me to my question, Are you satisfied with what God has allowed to come of His masterpiece? Even if we believe in the Free-will concept you have to admit that what has become of this world is sickening. And, I wonder why God has not intervened to save the best of His creation, the Saints and Believers. If the story is true I guess they will be saved.
It is interesting that everything related to God is contingent on “if the story is true”. Have you even considered if the extremely convincing story that’s told by Christian ministers, grandparents, theologians, and church-goers is NOT true? Some of us will never fathom or entertain the idea. To do so puts us in an unworthy light with Mr. God himself. No one wants to be in the dog house (bad favor) with the Lord considering He has been known to strike down those who doubt and rebuke Him. A perfect example of someone who received the wrath of God is Haman, the antagonist in the Book of Esther. God did not waste any time with Haman after it was discovered he was plotting to kill God’s favorites: the Jews. It is apparent with Hebrew Bible support that God was more hands-on during those days. He was always ready to protect His highly favored and even exterminate those who did not comply. There are countless stories in the bible that reference God’s fatherly allegiance to His ‘Chosen Ones’, the Righteous. He was prepared to issue a death sentence to anyone who defied His agenda.
At least we are aware, via King James’ stories, that God cared then. But, now in my summation it is difficult to determine if God is really tired of this stinky stuff. We have those ‘enlighten individuals’ who blatantly disrespect God, we have those who do not believe Jesus is God’s son, we have those who believe the entire concept of God is foolishness, we have those who do not adhere to His commandments, we have those who refuse to acknowledge the power of God, and the list goes on and on with all sorts of “sins”. (I am aware some of you believe I am among this hell-bound group) And, still there is no movement from God. He continues to be unresponsive. Unless, you believe He is issuing vengeful retribution with disastrous and deadly weather that’s affected all of the United States in some form over the past 2-3 years e.g. ravishing floods, uncontrollable wild fires, erratic tornadoes, cataclysmic hurricanes, etc. Is this God’s way of sending the chickens home to roost?
Jeremiah Wright, in one of his fiery but truthful sermons, told his parishioners, “God has to be tired of this shit”. When I analyze the evils which have lead to the ills of America that are mentioned in this particularly sermon I conclude that there is something possibly missing among the people regularly seated in Jeremiah’s former church during America’s most segregated hour, and among most Americans: A Fear of God’s Anger. No one cautiously fears God like we were told to do as children. As He was feared by the Tribe of Judah. God is a joke to most of us. An impotent afterthought. An unused relic. Something of the past that no longer has the ability to rule.
Isn’t it obvious He is not sitting on the throne ruling or could it be that He is so sick of this shit that He “sadistically” refuses to reprimand us perilously carefree descendants of Abraham considering His remarkable acts previously used to get our attention have been insolently disregarded for far too long? Perhaps, He will have the last laugh!
What do you think?
Written by Muata. Inspired by another effort to understand.
33 comments:
Very interesting post.
I think the REAL question is….ARE WE “TRIED OF THIS SHIT”? Change only occurs when a person finally and once and for all gets tired of the “shit” that he or she is in.
Do you believe in miracles?
Miracles are those things that transform us out of our personal “shit” into a place that does not reek of the stench of the cause and effect that we have created within our own lives, and in many cases, in the lives of others.
In my humble belief system opinion, I believe God is energy that can never be created nor destroyed. Thus, I believe that I am an extension of this energy too. Meaning that I consciously choose to acknowledge the FACT that God is ONLY LOVE. And, everything else is ONLY caused by MY separation from Him.
In those times of MY separation from God. I have learned that I can come back to Him anytime that I consciously or subconsciously awaken from MY nightmare! Thus, forcing me to face my fears and letting go of any false perceptions that I might have had that is/was causing me to have this fear.
If I can consciously train my mind to stay in the present moment at ALL times and to be thankful for what I already have knowing that I indeed already have everything that I will ever need because I have God. And, if problems do arise in my life because they will. I can choose to look at them as this came up in ME for ME to deal with ME!!
If you really think about it what is a problem? A problem is really only our own interpretation of how we "think" something should have been or be. But, what do we know? Really? What do we?
The very thing that causes us our deepest pain or is/was our problem is also the very gateway that WILL lead us to LOVE and PEACE. And, once we face our own personal issues that are within. Thus, choosing to experience our experience differently, to react differently to that problem/fear. Then what can truly hurt or harm us...NOTHING!!!
-Freedom
Muata Responds to Freedom:
All we really know is what we have been told. God is our imagination working, and usually out minds are crafting a Being or Force that we want to work on our behalf or in our favor.
Today's human cannot function as it was in the Hebrew Bible. We would not make it two days. Why? Because that God that was supposedly ruling then was ruthless. A punisher. With what we have become God would have no one else to punish because we all would have been destroyed by Him. We have defied Him and His law.
We have made a very nasty bed so now we are living in it.
It ain't gonna get better here on this place we call Earth. Nope. No way!
If ya believe ya better focus on HEAVEN. Put all your hope in that place.
-Muata
It is so sad that you have given up on LIFE and GOD!
All I have to say is that, if that is what you believe, then YES that will be YOUR experience!!
What a shame to waste your life in that mind set!!!
-LOVE & FREEDOM
ps U didn't answer my question. Do u believe in miracles?
Just something I thought I would share:
"Compassion (Neptune) for all of humanity (Aquarius) is a healthy expression of this symbolic pair. When you are able to love those who think differently than you, to accept many answers, rather than one holy truth, you are facilitating the healing of our planet. This, of course, is vital to your own personal healing and fulfillment. We are all in this together, even as we live life in our unique individual ways".
by Jeff Jawer
Sorry for posting ALL these comments lol.
This is just one more in my humble effort to shine some light in some of our darkest places.
"Yet as more and more individuals take responsibility for themselves, the power of transformation can come from within and be a consciously creative force for change. When each of us faces our fears and turns darkness into light we can reshape the world with love and hope rather than reacting to pain and fear".
by Jeff Jawer
Muata responds to Freedom's question (Do you believe in miracles?):
On some level I want to - but I do not have any substantial (hard evidence) that miracles are real. Can happen. If something miraculous has occurred it may be selfishly characterized as this by the person receiving or experiencing the "miracle". Or someone who believes miracles do occur. Huckabee said he believes in miracles when ask, Can he win the republican nomination???? He sittin on the sidelines watching McCain now.
We attach understanding to the unexplainable - to what we cannot collectively conceive with our psyche.
Or, perhaps, on the other hand there is some force out there assigning/granting miracles.
But, that leaves me with the question that I have had for years related to God answering prayers:
Why not for those most innocent of us? Why isn't God granting miracles for the starving children in Rwanda/Dafur?
With that, miracles are subjective. What we believe. May be not something that actually happens.
Interesting???
-Muata
Reader Responds:
for me, this is your best piece yet. i sit back thinking the same thing. i remember years ago a friend asked me if i believed in destiny. not really knowing much about anything or really even thinking that question through (when i look back at those early, early budding twenties i probably didn't have enough critical thinking going on to even logically debate with my buddy), i said "yes". i rememnber K then said, "so you think all those people in africa are supposed to be starving to death?' i'm telling you that totally affected my thinking and got me on apath to curiosity that i sometimes feel is like a gift and acurse. i'm telling you. once you start thinking and qustioning shit, your life changes. sometimes things get a little uncomfortable, but i guess taht's how ideas are born.
this was a good read. maybe it will be for some what K's question was to me.
-N A Peace
Reader shares commentary with M:
Hey M, don't know if you got this, but this is what you were talking about Sunday in a way and what I was saying in the sermon about being too smart. Good reading. I'm ccing Muata because I don't want him to think I'm talking behind his back. I won't respond to him directly, I will let him and God work this mess out. Good thing God is long suffering. LOL
For some reason seems like Muata feels God should act according to human sensibility and logic, not according to His own pleasure.
-KH
Muata responds to KH:
You know that my quest will stop. The questioning and analysis will continue until the day I die. No harm in this. I believe it is best to seek an understanding rather than declare you understand when you really don't. Like so many Christians do. The critical assessment should not stop after the new Christian gives a testimony, gets saved, attends new member's class, gets baptized, and then repeats the Apostle's Creed each and every Sunday.
Take care. And, thanks for reading.
Peace
-KH
Reader responses:
WOW!!!
-DS
In advancing the concept that the church has no legitimacy, that Christianity was abducted in its infancy by the powerful and unscrupulous, and the church itself is evil, I've written a thriller trilogy to appeal to those who don't want to get mired in the details. I encourage you to read the books now available. Destiny's Damned and Satan's Scat. Book 3, Triumvirate of the Damned, will be available next year.
-SR
Muata recommends readers to view video at the following link and then gives a preface to the video:
http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=c9824ced79a5060e7918
Please notice that the only 'suggestion' given by the Christian narrator (at the end) was "pray". Is this what Christianity has become: A praying religion without action. A praying religion without conducting some level of self analysis or critical thinking of what Christians believe in. A praying religion without questioning. I guess Christians should just fall in line and just believe. Believe in a religion that does not provide any answers if you select to become a mute. Isn't it amazing the United States government has embraced a 'keep your mouth close' brand of Christianity. Typical!!
Kudos to Oprah!!!
-Muata
Reader Responds:
They are not ready for dat shyt boy. I bet you haven't gotten one response from a Christian. How can you argue with what you said......HOW? The unresponsive God...LOL
-EJ
Muata responds to EJ:
You right. Not many responses from the Christians. It amazes me that they become closed lipped when their religion is legitimately and intellectually attacked/criticized. They become mutes. That is nothing new, however. This is how they maintain their allegiance to Christianity: Hush-Hush and believe because the bible and pastor says so. Unbelievably shallow. But, they will tell me to leave them alone and let them believe what they want as long as it serves them well. I plan to continue to press forward with the same velocity that they have used to shackle the minds of the vulnerable. Christianity is weak - and it needs to be exposed on the daily for what it is: A Sham! These folk die believing in something that they know is fairy tale - and fail to address the real issues of this world with authority. Believing in Christianity has not solved hunger and/or poverty. All it has done is added millions to their effort to Christianize the world because they are insecure.
-Muata
Reader Responds:
Of course he is saddened and at times frustrated with anger; I feel, by our contempt and disrespect for him and his commandments for our lives and our well being. (Because regardless of popular opinion the commandments and Gods direction is for our well being and to protect our hearts and us from harm). We have mistreated and in a lot of cases destroyed what he freely gave us and left us in charge of. But yet he loves us even still. God is our Father; well my Father, and what Father rewards their children for deliberately disobeying him and acting outside of the direction he has given them. So has he turned his head and allowed us to see the error of our ways....by allowing certain things to happen as a result of our mess...I would say "Yes". And "Yes" because just like any other Father he has to teach his children; who have fallen by the waist side and turned their backs on him a lesson. Sometimes that lesson is an incredibly hard one but necessary so that he can get his child's attention and cause that child to see their mistakes and turn from their erroneous and disrespectful ways.
-DB
Muata responds to DB:
So, from what you believe you are directly communicating that God has allowed some atrocities to occur to "get His child's attention". From this belief you are basically saying that God permits some events to happen, even up to death of the innocent, to 'pull our coats' or 'get us in line'. Well, if this is the case - why can't God recognize that His 'get His children's attention' tactics are not working? We still freaking up His creation. Why play this ridiculous game?
-Muata
Reader EJ Responds after viewing video on GodTube:
I really felt like I grew spiritually from just watching that video. Something I never felt in all of my years attending "church". It wasn't entertaining...no singing....no screaming...no begging....no well dressed preachers.. Just informative an thought provocative.
-EJ
Reader DB responds again:
God is all knowing and all seeing. We will never know and understand the mind of God. Nor can we analyze him with our limited rational. But when we turn our backs on and try to act without his guidance things; sometimes bad things, occur as a repercussion. God is the author and the finisher and he will always have the final say we only frustrate ourselves trying to figure him and his ways out.
-DB
Muata responds to DB:
This is what amazes me:
"we only frustrate ourselves trying to figure him and his ways out." Your words.
Not to say you do this, but why do most Christians attempt to end conversation or insinuate it is "final" when they are pressed by a critic who is attempting to create an on-going dialogue that may lead to some level of criticism of their beliefs? It appears to me while I have been on this spiritual and theological quest that many followers of Jesus are resistant to this type of conversation especially when it appears that they have no where else to go with their justification of belief.
Just review your first three sentences. Now, you tell me that those sentences are not a display of finality. Then you proceed to inform me of a consequence that will occur if I/we don't do this or that. (Scare tactic used be so many preachers) Then you close with God has the final say. Who says so? Does He? If He does where has He been lately? It looks like man in his ridiculous ways has
the final say.
Can you really say that God is showing Himself and intervening on the behalf of the righteous. Biblically He stop doing this in the Old Testament. Beginning with the New Testament it reads as if God was using His last alternative (Jesus) to get man's attention. It did not work. They killed Jesus for breaking a law: turning the tables over in the temple.
Just talking.
-Muata
I am a Christian and I have responded. The funny thing of all is how some individuals miss the whole teachings of Christ. GodTube has done nothing that Christ hasn't taught for centuries.
Jesus taught it all starts in your mind. He taught about your consciousness being awaken. Christ was not just formed 2000 years ago. He was there at the beginning. Jesus' ministry was all about waking up a sleeping world that is still sleep today.
We all share the Christ mind. We just have to consciously awaken to it. Jesus taught about there being a higher being than ourselves and he taught that we should LOVE this being with all our mind, heart and strength.
He also talked about us LOVING each other as we LOVE ourselves.
We ALL make mistakes, but in those mistakes miracles do occur. Some of us actually change and awaken to who we really are. The Holy Spirit that is available to ALL has the capability of correcting our mistakes.
For me, on my Christian journey I am going to continue to have the light shine within ME to heal ME, so that once I am healed in those places that has been my greatest psychic wound. I can then heal others in this world in that area. Thus, having my light shine so the world can see and be healed through the power of God that is within me, you, them, they.
Me as a Christian, my mission is to LOVE everyone!!! Point blank!
Because everyone essential is me! One Christ mind even if they don't know it.
Do I always do? No lol!!
But now I am more consciously and subconsciously aware that I do not always do this. So with each day I am forgetting more. Leaving the past behind. Living in the here and now, yet planning for the future.
You know Jesus accepted ALL men as they were. But, when he spoke to them he spoke the TRUTH to them EVERY single time.
It's something about the TRUTH that will set you FREE. HOWEVER, sometimes it will piss you off first lol. Don't be fooled you know the truth when you hear it or see it is an undeniable recognition of the TRUTH.
If we awaken and remember who we are? We will ALL know that we are naturally perfect because the one who created us is naturally perfect and he cannot create nothing other than himself. When we were born we knew nothing of the ills of this world over time we have fallen asleep to who we really are. Loving, Holy Children of God.
This world is an emotional violation!
However, FreeWill is only free thought. We have the freedom to think as we will. And by doing this we are willing things, experiences, people etc into our lives. We are choosing which courses we want to take in our lives.
YOU ARE WHAT YOU BELIEVE!!!
Reader DB Responds:
Muata...no I understand that we are just talking no problem. But what I should have stated in my response earlier is that this is my belief. And with that being so I don't intend to justify my belief. It is just that mine and I also do not attempt to force it on anyone. Now with that being said, I believe that God has the final say. I believe that I will never know the mind of God or be able to rationalize why he allows things to happen the way they do. As for me "scare tactics" is not how I see it...I fear God because I love him and want him to be pleased with me and my life. I do not say God has the final say to scare anyone because if one does not believe God or the word of God then that would have no impact on them what so ever...because they don't care about God or what he's says. Again, because they don't believe and that's fine. And I respect that. God has the final say according to the word of God that I believe in. And I trust that word. Again; as for me, I believe God, I study the word and I attempt to live my life in a pleasing manner before God. No book, no theological findings can and will alter the way I feel about my God. I am one to allow others to believe what they believe and I will not attempt to refute, alter, or mock their beliefs. I have friends who are Buddhist (my bestfriend), Muslims and so on. And I respect them and their beliefs.
-DB
Muata Responds to DB:
I understand ya. However, I could take your response as: 'She is now hiding behind her belief'. What if your belief could be taken away from you? Literally taken. What would you do then?
-Muata
Reader Responds to Muata:
My belief can't be taken from me. There is no "what if". And you could take it that way...you have a choice. However, I can also say that there is no hiding necessary when there is no uncertainty. I am sure about my belief in God and I am not confused or lost about why God is God or "Why God" on any level...
-DB
Muata responds to statements made pertaining to Oprah video:
we are too stuck on man - but what do we expect when Jesus (who was a man) is the central figure of Chrisitianity. our understanding is related to what we view and see, and we are stuck on the image of jesus. as a man. we are looking for someone to save us, and several of us seek this saving from other humans who are supposed to be 'ordianed/annointed' all the while we never SPIRITUALLY seek God the way we should. why? perhaps, we cannot relate to God via SPIRITUALLITY because we have difficulties relating to a being/force that does not come to us in physical form.
-Muata
N from A Peaceful Journey Responds to Blogger Freedom:
how can we honestly plan for the future by forgetting the past and leaving it behind? i think that that is one of the most deadly mistakes black people in this country make. it seems to me like intentionally forgetting, with sustained effort, suggests that the past has no bearing on what's happening today, and i think that can be naive. white people don't forget their past. that's one of the reasons they still believ it is their birthright do do the damage they do without regard to how it will affect others. this type of behavior was an integral part of their history and there have been many defenses for it. so it seems like while we live with a "let's forget" mentality, we are taking steps backward. if we embraced the sweet, raw, painful and decadent of our past, we'd be more whole today. i can't forget that there have been and still are forces with missions, plans in tow, to do my entire race some serious, intentional, debilitating harm. when i think about educating children who get no real african or black history, i see they are at a disadvantage. we do not tell them to forget, but it is by design that they do not know their history. consequently, they engage in all kinds of crazy ass behavior that could probably be alleviated if we engrained their history into their heads. now, i am not simplistic in my thinking to any extent where i am suggesting that all problems would be resolved with an embrace and conscious effort to remmeber our past, but i'm willing to bet we'd be a different people. i can't dismiss harriet tubman and i can't forget legalized brutality against black people, and the list goes on. this memory, that i consciously keep alive, helps me navigtae throught his world where black people are not a priority, not even for black people.
-N
Reader EJ ask Blogger Freedom then Muata addresses his question and responds to Freedom:
If Jesus was here in the beginning? Where was Christanity?
-EJ
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Good question, EJ.
History does support that Christianity in it's established form is only 2000 plus yrs new. A rather infancy religion - which means it is limited in religious scope. The advancement of it is powered by money, insecurity, brainwashing, cultural destruction, and zealous white men. With that recipe it was bound to take off!
Oprah's message in this video is an effort for the viewers to be awaken and to discover who we are. I must say that I have NEVER been to a church that promotes self development, self analysis, and personal critical thinking. No, according to Christianity it must be done with a bible and a belief in Jesus. That's it?? Well, well, well.
-Muata
Muata has final question for DB:
I forgot to ask:
No, this uncertainty is based on your belief and faith. Right? You know there is no validity to what Believers believe. None. No proof. Not one ounce of something substantial. The Believer's belief is full of what some call: Fantasy. A figment of their imaginations.
-Muata
Freedom responds to A Peaceful Journey,
What a great name! Our two names have enough POWER to heal the world! lol
I'm not saying not to teach our children their history. To be honest do we really know it! Have we really sat down and traced our roots back to Africa? Hell have any of us ever been to Africa?
I just think we can teach our history to ourselves and our children to unite us as a people to remember not to fall asleep again.
However, isn't LOVE and Forgiveness the BEST lessons we can teach ourselves and our children.
A Peaceful Journey responds to Freedom:
this is good dialogue. thanks for the shout on the name, freee. and btw, i've been to west africa, and i plan to hit the motherland at least every other year.
cornel west said something interesting--totally paraphrased here: what does it look like to love people who haven't been taught to love themselves? that had me sitting back thinking from different vantages for a minute.
what does an expression of self love look like, specifically how does that look for black people? many times true love for ourselves can be misconstrued by white folks. to love ourselves for real in this country will get us labled anti-white, trouble maker and things along those lines. take muhammad ali who refused to fight for this country. that was self love, self respect and knowing his worth. his title was taken. if you wear any type of african garb to work because you are embracing your culture, you viewed as a rebel and probably even told your dress is inappropriate. if you don't make your children say the american pledge of allegiance, you can be viewed as a fifth columnist. if you're seen repeatedly reading books about your culture, you're limited. there are countless examples. are we really courageous enough to love ourselves publicly? that kind of love is gonna bring a lot of heat. people may not say anything, but we can feel when our love for ourselves gets totally mangled in the mind's of others.
i'm all for self love and i do my best to practice that and not show any fear in that practicum. however, i know it comes with a price tag--maybe having some realtionships end or change or even being misunderstood or even refuting what the world believes is a common truth. my favorite poet haki madhubuti once said that he loves black people and he's not afraid to say it. such a big statement in so few words. that's the kind of self love i hope god keeps inside of me---a brave love, that comes from knowing who i am and from where i have come. i haven't found that in any religion.
this is a good exchange. keep it coming!
-N
Freedom Responds again to A Peaceful Journey:
A Peaceful Journey,
My name is Freedom given to me by father. He was such a rebel in every sense of the word lol.
He said he named me Freedom so that whenever the white man addressed me they would know that they were addressing FREEDOM.
He taught me about being proud of who I am and to know who I am. Along the way I must admit that I have forgotten a little. In high school I was involved in every black history organization we had. Unfortunately, it was only two but I was heavily involved going to competitions and all. Some where along my "peaceful journey" I have forgotten who and what I am. I can admit this to myself so that I can do something about it. I plan to get back in tune with my roots. Not just for my sake but for the sake of my future children and their children's children. I too want to pass our legacy on to them, so that they as you said will not NEVER forget their history, where they came from and who they really are.
You made a strong point it your assessment and it is TRUE once we know that this world WILL NOT validate us then it puts the responsibility back on us to validate ourselves.
My mate and I are planning to visit Egypt next year that would be my first time in Africa. However, I am also planning to go to Howard Law and they have a summer program that allows the student to spend the summer in South Africa studying towards college credit. I can't wait to experience both of these experiences!!!
Much Love & Respect,
-Freedom
Muata Responds to Freedom's statement concerning Love and Forgiveness:
As slaves we already knew how to love. As slaves we learned to forgive as a by-product of this love that we had already. We still understand what love is. We just don't display it at times towards one another. I wonder why?(Keep reading I will tell you toward the end) We still forgive. We were told by pastor we had to forgive the white man because the bible tells us so. We did that. And, what is missing?:
A love that comes from knowing thy self and the ability to forgive thy self.
We love everybody else and forgive everybody else - but have failed to love and forgive self! That is a conspired plan of Mr. White Man, his assistance came through his religion, Christianity. Telling us to love a white Jesus and then promoted self hatred. Boy, we have been fooled by this weak sham for a religion: Christianity!
-Muata
Freedom responds to Muata:
I totally agree with you on this one MUATA! Even I cannot deny the TRUTH once I hear/read it!
Christian preachers and teachers really do fail to teach about having a healthy love of self. I have oftentimes told whomever that would listen to me that Christian preachers focus on loving others so much that they fail to really nurture teachings on “Loving thy own self”.
By the way, Jesus spoke of this healthy type of love for self when he gave the two Greatest Commandments: To Love God with all thy heart, mind and strength (paraphrasing), and LOVE thy neighbor as THY SELF!
Muata, you finally said something about Christianity that I can agree with you on! LOL!!!
-Freedom
Freedom responds to EJ's question to her "If Jesus was here in the beginning? Where was Christanity?":
Hey Eee,
It took me a minute to think about your question lol. I don’t back down on questions (laughs).
Paraphrasing “If Jesus was there in the beginning, where was Christianity”. It was there too. Now the question could be raised why didn’t Jesus just come and rescue us once Adam and Eve messed things up for us all lol. That to me is a very good question. I don’t know the mind of God so I will not spit out idol words to you, but these types of questions are valid ones and I agree at times our minds cannot comprehend the mind of God.
I do believe that we all have this “Christ” mind that ALL of us share. The mind of Christ that we ALL have the anointing to make a difference. I know this might sound like I am talking in tongues lol. But to me, Christianity the belief in Jesus as God son is the same belief that we ALL are God’s Sons, and Jesus showed us how we can live a life pleasing to God and loving ourselves as we love our neighbors. We are all it! We are ALL “God’s begotten sons”! We too can live in a world (this world) where we do not judge one another, but help and accept each other. And, when a person knows that he or she is accepted, as he or she is, then that person is more open to change!
If the answer is to come, how will it come? It will come through you or me, them or they, being the portal in which the answer comes into the human conscious realm of life.
Freedom
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